Ban the Back-Up Beeper!
A city is no place for piece and quiet. There are always everywhere. This is especially true in the daytime. Whenever I have a few days off from work, I’ve found that the noises around my apartment make it damn near impossible to sleep in on weekdays. There are always lawnmowers and leafblowers and nearby trains, but of all the noises, the worst is the back-up beeper.
The basic idea behind the back-up beeper is a good one, but as they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. The problem isn’t the idea; it’s the implementation. These alarms were designed half a century ago with a basic idea: making as loud and obnoxious of a noise as possible. These machines were initially designed for major work sites where workers were wearing helmets. Because of this, back-up beepers were designed to emit a piercing whistle at upwards of 100 decibels. This made sense and probably saved lives.
After proving successful on the job site, the back up beeper proliferated elsewhere. In the name of safety, such devices ended up on small backhoes, garbage trucks and delivery vans. All of them had beepers loud enough for a billion-dollar construction site, regardless of their actual use. As anyone who’s ever had the misfortune of living next to a dumpster can tell you, the back-up beeper is far worse than the sound of a ton of garbage being sloshed around. Likewise, when my roof was being reshingled on my Thanksgiving Break, it wasn’t the hammering that bugged me as much as the forklifts idling in reverse.
Of course, this ignores the entire purpose of the back-up beeper. It’s there to protect construction workers. Their health and safety is worth more than my peace and quiet. This I do not dispute. But when it comes to warning workers, the back-up beeper fails. Because it’s so loud, it’s hard to locate, and because its so common, it’s easy to tune out. To someone working with heavy equipment all day, it’s just so much background noise. Perhaps it worked when it was first introduced, but nowadays the back-up beeper is an ineffective warning system.
So if the current generation of back-up beepers is ineffective, what is the solution? First off, volume. Instead of beeping as loud as possible, our work trucks should be able to measure the ambient noise and adjust the volume accordingly. That would go a way to tampering the noise on small job sites. It would also help to make the speakers more directional. This would help workers tune out the sound when it wasn’t relevant, since the noise would be aimed only at people in the reversing vehicle’s path.
Both of these changes could be implemented cheaply and easily with modern technology. There are more expensive technologies we could use though, such as sensors that detect the infrared signature of the human form and beep only when someone is in range. Not that we need military-grade technology on the job site. As I said, a volume control system combined with directional speakers would be a huge improvement.
There are certainly better ways to handle safety than beeping as loud as humanly possible. Let’s think smarter, not louder.
Living around “amenities” is a killer, shoppers drug mart cleans at night from 1 a.m. to 3 a.m with
beepers going constantly, it echoes through the complex and then the other stores have
trucks delivering with backing up and beepers go, it is never ending and very annoying driving one
to be anxious and angry. Beepers should be banned.
Elore: Hopefully, this will eventually help:
I ran across your article on “Ban the Back up Beeper”! AWESOME!
I COMPLETELY agree with you! Amen!
I have been researching this VERY subject!
I am sure you have heard of “Brigade White Sound Back Up Alarm”…well if you haven’t definitely Google it! We live in So California and live near a grocery store…ugh!
I remember several years ago when people here in California wanted to “Ban Smoking” in restaurants…well the rest is HISTORY…thank goodness! Well that is my thinking…we could start something….encourage our prospective states….most important OSHA to adopt this “new technology” of white noise back up sensors instead the ANNOYING “back up beeping”!!
It is worth a try!
Happy Holidays & Happy New Year! 🙂
Don’t know if you saw this:
http://ideas.4brad.com/can-we-stop-loud-beep-backing I tried leaving a comment on this link, but, it wouldn’t let me. I personal messaged “Brad” on Fb, but he never returned my message.
This must change. 🙂
Happy Holidays to you & yours! 🙂
Happy New Year Steve.
Thanks for writing on my moveon.org petition.
Check out the comments on this link:
Matsusaburo Yamaguchi of Yamaguchi Electric Company, Japan, invented the back-up beeper which was first manufactured as model BA1 in 1963. “Back to the drafting table Mr. Yamaguchi.”
I am about to commit murder. Might be myself. I live in Vt, been here 30 years, no neighbors, but have had it with numb heads across the road with their backup beepers. They are either plowing parking lots, loading food, or unloading new cars. Unbelievably, I live in a residential that has 3 miles of commercial space across the street from me. My house is up on a hill, and is surrounded by forested mountains that creates an amphitheater that is literally making me finally lose it. I can hear them even when I’m in the shower. I have 3 acres of beautiful landscaped gardens, and a deck overlooking all this, but it’s destroyed by the noise.
How can I stop these ‘good ole’ boys’ from keeping the back up beepers on? Fact: They were designed for USE IN TRAFFIC, to alert other drivers that a vehicle is backing up. There IS NO TRAFFIC IN THESE PARKING LOTS!!!!!! Help.
Back-up cameras should be mandatory replacement for the beepers. Now, in 2014, they are inexpensive third party solutions which can create a safer working environment and can eliminate a lot of noise. It’s also a great way to stimulate the economy – if that’s important?
Thanks Steve. I see I am not alone in despising these obnoxious devices. I live in a hillside residential neighborhood, but I hear them almost every day from inside my house. I am not willing to accept that level of intrusion into my home. I have just started researching the subject, but I see others are well ahead of me. I completely agree that rear view cameras are the best, noiseless solution. Some of the questions I would like to research are: Was any research originally done on these devices to determine if they would be effective or did someone just think it would be a good idea? Have they been effective? Have back-up accidents decreased? Do they cause any adverse effects on workers such as headaches from constantly hearing them all day? If so, has this created a Pavlov response that triggers a headache whenever one hears a beeper? Have there been any applications for workman’s compensation related to beeper problems? Have the beepers shifted the responsibility from drivers making sure no one is behind them to those behind them getting out of way? What about deaf people? If anyone has any of these answers, I would like to hear them.
I found this site/blog googling to find out why these g.d. things exist when there are better alternatives. I don’t see any big groundswell of public support for legislation to ban or slowly eliminate them. If you ever find a petition site or a group actually dedicated to doing something about this unnecessary aggravation, please do let me know. Thanks.
A comment by D K Sweeney on this page has a link to a petition on moveon.com that you can sign. You are right that there is not yet a public outcry on this issue, but let’s do what we can do to spread the message. I know there are many folks out there who find those beepers extremely annoying.
BTW — the reason industry will fight the backup camera is that it puts legal responsibility on the driver to see what’s behind him, whereas the beeper puts legal responsibility on people on the ground to hear and move out of the way. Never going to make that one fly. What we need is scientifically-proven improvement in the beepers in terms of their being noticed locally and not heard five miles away.
How about a class action suit against OSHA!…I sincerely doubt if our leaders even have read the regulation…there seems to be some loop holes to explore and surely are ambiguities in the regulation…our society has evolved since the time of the advent of backup alarms…noise pollution studies which indicate noise levels such as the beep of these alarms can be detrimental to health…both mental and physical…let’s get organized…
I am happy to find the conversation on this! I used to live in Vermont ( as Lori above) and also have lived in Brooklyn…I now live in a suburb of SF. And in each of these places, the beeping trucks have been a huge issue. It infuriates me to no end. Especially when I have read that the technology exists to have a noise that is only heard within a few feet of the vehicle. I am amazed that not more people are bothered by this and that there are not more petitions circulating. It’s a huge issue. Please let me know if there are any other petitions other than the moveon one. Thanks!
Back up alarms are a noise violation in my county but the police wont enforce it. Spotters are an alternative, so these back up alarms are not federally required.
I agree.I signed that peition.I’m so glad I’m not alone.
When I tell people this problem, they minimize it,They tell me that it’s for the safety of people and they make out like I’m some murderer, just because I wish there was another way.
They scold me and then I feel really alone and guilty for feeling that way.
But so many good points people have wrote that think outside the box for once!
Someone must be making money on those beepers and I wonder if Osha wants to protect their company buddies from change.
I have Aspergers Syndrome a form of Autism and mine makes me sensitive to noise.
Noise torments me and it hurts God it hurts! Make it stop!
I can’t go back to sleep with that back up beeper across the river and I’m 6 stories up from it.
I’ve suggested the alternative to construction crews and one guy was interested but they’re stuck with what machines theyre stuck with I guess.
I spoke up for myself about construction pain and trie to offer ideas.
One group listeneed the other didn’t.
But I tried
.I pray for Gods protection and wear earphones and earplugs.
I’m at a loss what to do now that I signed the peition.
Probaly I’ll get away as soon as possible. Thanks for your posts about this.
It was helpful not to feel alone.
Dang it my spelling isn’t that good.I hate when that happens..
I repeated myself on not feeling alone.I don’t know how to fix this mistake
.I hope whoever owns this webpage can fix these mistakes.
I live in Hilltown Township, Pennsylvania and have a Quarry across the street. They also operate an all night service shop for Haines and Kibblehouse at the same location that continually backs up Triaxle trucks all hours of the morning (in addition to the monotonous daytime constant back up activity of the Quarry). It is enough to drive you to committing an act of violence to stop them. They have the loudest of the “old style” single tone beeper alarms on most of their vehicles that beep at 130+ dB no matter how quiet or loud the surrounding environment. Their representative’s only response is that safety is a priority… Their safety is in question when at any time, they may all be shot by someone who has had enough of the noise that can be heard clearly a mile away…
As mentioned in someone’s post above, OSHA does not require back up alarms (contrary to anybody that works at a construction site or Quarry is told by their management). The alternative listed by OSHA is a flag person with no alarm needed. Also, the requirement of the need for a back up alarm (in the first place) when there is a blind spot, is satisfied with a back up camera (also mentioned in an above post), as there is no longer a blind spot. I agree that the camera will never work as the litigation involved would put the blame on the truck driver if they run someone over, not the person behind the vehicle that couldn’t get out of the way of the vehicle that doesn’t need to worry about being sued if they run you over (if they have a back up alarm that is working).
There are other options…. First, smart alarms have been in use the past 20 years, and a good quality one would continually monitor the background noise and only sound off at 5 to 10 dB above that background noise, instead of blaring at 130 dB at all times. Also, mentioned is the white noise alarm from Brigade that is also a smart type alarm plus it sends multiple frequency bands of tone that blends into the background noise beyond the danger zone (instead of being heard miles away).
My biggest issue is that all my neighbors don’t seem as bothered and don’t want to raise a fuss about it. I guess some people are more bothered by the alarms than others… My whole family is severely bothered by the loud back up alarms. Also, I did not know this until lots of investigation and most people do not realize this either… 60 dB is not 20% louder than 50 dB… It is twice as loud. 70 dB is twice as loud as 60 dB, therefore 70 dB is four times as loud as 50 dB. Every 10 dB is a doubling of noise, not just a gradual increase in noise! When people shrug off dB levels, they don’t realize this!
My brother and I are caretaking a business. The other business, over from us, uses 2 large industrial forklifts to pick up shipping containers. Over the last few weeks, this business has gone from using their horns to indicate they are reversing. However, over the last few weeks these forklifts have been using reversing beepers and also working 24/7 some days. This has got so annoying for us that we will have to move.We have had enough! The other businesses don’t use the reversing beeps, only this large business over from us. We are in Australia.A
We are also aware that this is an industrial law in Australia. We are hoping that our neighbours will be getting a petition organised, so that we can all get together to ban these beeps, because they don’t use them either and also because these beeps are annoying to people around them.
I hate this intrusive noise. I think the beeper problem is a symptom of our legal system. Lawsuits have become so predatory that businesses do everything possible to avoid liability. That is the real driving force behind these beepers. It’s why when you go to Home Depot, or other big box store, you are subjected to the incessant beeper noise on their forklifts. Tort reform would help eliminate this problem.
I am sitting here in my apartment in Toronto, and the sound of the backup beepers, which woke me up on my only day off, is migraine inducing. The sound of the beep is like a pulsing in my brain, it is so focused on that menacing noise. This has got to stop. I would sign your petition if Canadians were allowed to do so, There was one particularly loud beeper coming from an idiot in a Honda van. Some private citizens feel the need to wake up the entire neighborhood while they are backing their vehicle out of the driveway!! Seems they don’t know how to turn their head around or look in their rear view mirror! I have researched this issue, and supporters argue about the “safety of children.” Agreed. So let’s find a more peaceful and effective ways to accomplish the same task. Enough is enough!!!
Thanks, Steve. Great piece. I have a Facebook page about those bloody things, and will put a link to your story there.
THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS.
These “Reversing Alarms” are THE ONE THING which has made me lose almost COMPLETE belief in society and mankind as a whole.
It is absolutely unexplainable to me how a law that arguably has NO measurable benefit, but on the other hand makes MILLIONS OF SQUARE KILOMETERS OF LAND UNINHABITABLE, can stand for years or decades without anyone taking it down or citizens violently protesting to demand its removal.
Literally, this idiotic alarm must be HUNDREDS OF TIMES LOUDER than the actual ENGINE NOISE which is ALREADY PRETTY LOUD!
For example, I live several MILES from a quarry here and while I obviously don’t hear the trucks etc. AT ALL, what I CONSTANTLY HEAR is these RIDICULOUS ALARMS. They are even MORE ridiculous in such a situation because those vehicles are reversing CONSTANTLY, EVERY WORKER ON THE PREMISES KNOWS that they are reversing constantly, and that they are in a DANGER ZONE.
By CONSTANTLY SOUNDING ALARMS (which get eliminated by the brain for that very reason after a short period of time, while still destroying your eardrums), the ONLY THING that is achieved is making an area of several SQUARE MILES UNINHABITABLE!
Why don’t business owners just CUT THE DAMN WIRES!?
thank you steve and all commenters here.i cannot stand these infernal back up beeps.they a re driving me nuts is bad for our health would be happy to bomb them . use mirrors and find a way to have the driver not be liable. this is so ridiculous that people cant be observant enough to see a truck backing up. we are not in danger of being run over by their g d trucks when we are blocks away and in our homes yet they destroy our sleep and our health and think its fine.
i hope is right that we will win and ban them like smoking has been banned thank god . i signed the petiton what else should w e all do? ive joined noise free america and quiet communities . lets all work on this !
The most stupid, loathsome devices ever known to mankind. They are a straight out instrument of torture to those of us (and there seem to be quite a few) who are disturbed by these offences to our right to peace and quiet on our own properties. Then you go to the hardware store or bottle shop and the bloody forklifts are going,and all you want to do is buy what you need and get out as fast as possible, instead of browsing and maybe spending more.
Once I was at a beautiful harbour with some friends and we had taken a picnic – and across the bay, one of the mongrel hateful things was going round and round an EMPTY AND FENCED OFF CONSTRUCTION SITE. If anyone was so completely dense as to somehow scale the industrial fence and enter a pile of rubble and somehow manage to get run over by the only piece of machinery on it, then I say well done natural selection. Completely ruined the picnic and instead of being happy and joyful in the great outdoors, I was angry and resentful.
One of the worst aspects for me is the feeling of utter helplessness and impotence in the face of implacable stupidity and selfishness.
The beeping has been driving me crazy for 30 years.
Here’s a simple solution: put the beeper inside the cab with an optical back up warning system like many cars have. The driver is the one operating the hazardous backing up vehicle so let them liaten to it in the cab, not those of us within a 1 mile radius.
ottawa is listening! i d rather have a total ban on any noise and use cameras or some other silent system but this is so much better than those despicable beeps . look at the comnents though , some viciously vitriolic people out there .would be so nice to have the back up beeps out side their homes non stop and see how much they like them then .
it also seems like the more complaints thye receive the more chance of getting rid of them in your neighborhood ! im glad someone is listening to us .
I have a facebook page titled “Beeper My Arae. I truly believe that the United States government along with OSHA and police Inc. are using these sound tasers to insight violence.among the population of the country in order to lend ever more credence to its police force. I know because before I moved away I could have easily walked up the hill to a salvage yard in the town I lived in and shot everyone there dead. There too are loud motors of heavy machinery, trains, large amounts of steel being dropped and crushed all of which don’t hold a candle to the sound tasers we so inaccurately call beepers. These things are our government’s assault on its own people.for the purpose of creating violence. Nothing that I know of has ever proven to be more ineffective at accomplishing what it was designed to do than the sound taser ( backup beeper) It also gives the gov a clear look at just how apathetic the American people really are.
I am so glad other people agree. Thank you for this!
dk sweeney my new comment keeps get buried in the old commnets from a year and a half ago on the petiton page you started , and thank you for it.in case you can fix it thank you!
am reposting because my new commnent somehow got buried in a year ago spot yes we need to get
the word out and stop the health hazard of the infernal back up beep and it is a health hazard . i’ve been tormented by all day and early morning back up beeps that travel miles for over a year [ idiotic construction ][the all day non stop ] and for over 10 years the early morning ones. noise is a proven
stressor . it is used in torture .. it causes diabetes ,auto immune diseases ,heart disease,, high blood pressure weight gain , leads to violence etc .people can call thier senators . city officials , dept of transportation, surgeon general, local police ,complain to teh perpatrators [ construciton companies
maybe a lawsuit? call their doctors ,and health insurance companies [ not that they care they’ll [ along with the pharmaceutical industry ] make more money off of sick people! ] plus everyone can join noise free america and other organizations who are against the back up beep.””
Matsusaburo Yamaguchi is obviously a worthless piece of shit that has never achieved anything in his pathetic life. If the only thing you are notable for is making some back up beeper that creates noise pollution, you obviously never went anywhere in life.
I agree wholeheartedly with Kay above ! 100% Also, can we add leaf blowers to the banned list. I just endured an hour of some asshole across the street using a leaf blower to blow away…NOTHING in sight. I am totally serious. This is my quiet time before I go to work in a very noise restaurant. My left eye was twitching, which is usually a sign I want to take the damn thing out of his hands and bludgeon him with it !
Totally agree. Leaf blowers are the worst, even compared to other noisy power tools and lawn equipment.
Sometimes I hear about thousand beeps a day, several days of the week, since the quarry on the next block moved in very close to my home. And I was here first. And yes, it has been making me act in ways I’m not too proud of – but the frustration level becomes intense. Not only the worst of it, the beeping, but also some sort of knock-knock-knock noise. After about two dozen knocks it stops for a very short time then starts up again. This one happens maybe twice a month and lasts most of the day.
I have had enough!!! I am losing sleep. There is a tractor that starts at 4:00 in the morning with the “beep, beep, beep” and does not end until 7:30 a.m.!!!! I have tried earplugs, closing the windows (even though I could save money on my electric bill by NOT running the air conditioner), and white noise objects. It does not work!!!! As we know, lack of sleep makes for a grouchy, unproductive human being!
We need to start a national petition. I want a rocket launcher.
14th Floor….. NYC. Caverns of buildings only augment the frequency. It actually pierces my eardrums in just the “right place.” Sirens as well kill my ears all afternoon. I’m ready to purchase gun muffs like the airplane dudes with the orange flashlights who guide the plane’s pilots on the tarmacs. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have PTSD from wondering when the next BEEP is going to take place.
Petition yes! Change.org
I would like to know if anyone has had any kind of success regulating this beeper noise with city, county, state or federal governments in any locale? Since most of it exceeds the allowable OSHA noise decibels and time limits, has anyone had success there?
i would like to know too.i s a health hazard because of the stress caused.noise free america and quiet communities are organziations that are about the health dangers of noise adn working on the noise problems .
the non stop beeps just started again today. is a form of torture .
it has been going on for year s. there is the white noise machine instead. alhtough cameras would be the best solution . the back up beep needs to be banned and right now!
Has there been any movement on this issue? I just moved into a beautiful private location that now I am finding to be plagued by the back up beeper noise from at least 1 mile away.It is horrible and non stop.I don’t know where to turn other than maybe moving.FML
The automotive industry seems to be getting it right. Cameras along with motion sensors that that stop the vehicle if something is in the backup path. It’s becoming standard on cars, why not make it standard on all vehicles that require this level of safety.
Steve Lovelace started this thread December 12, 2012. I think the time has come! Steve are you still with us? Can you provide an update? How do we make something happen with this? Certainly we have the technology to make the safety better while at the same time making it completely quite by using cameras and object sensors – just like the cars we drive now. Is anyone in congress working on a new law to pass? Certainly we can get them on board because this effects most all of us and it clearly is unnecessary noise pollution. I think we need to start a petition! Everyone agree?
Is there any help in this Beeper issue?